Posted By: Andrew http://www.nkran.net/
I just like to say what an excellent thing you are doing, and I fit exactly into your bracket. I do not work in the IT industry, I could have done when I learnt FORTRAN IV many years ago using punched cards, and output from an IBM 1132 line printer. I wasn’t sure I was bright enough at the time & followed a biology route ending up as an entomologist/pest controller. I did have to do some computing at university though, & eventually ended up qualifying with Association of Computer professionals Java Programming level one. What I’m doing now is a web site using a few single jsp’s & MySQL. Also I have two web apps; one is Jchatbox, and the other a forum from terac board. Everything is connecting & working fine, on my development system using apache-tomcat-5.5.25 and MySQL 5.1 on windows XP. The deployment of war files was simple. Heres one question for you. If I’m using tomcat on windows, why can I not find a hosting service also using the same set up? I guess it’s because Linux is free & windows isn’t It’s a shame because it would be an easy step to go from a windows development set up, to a hosting set up with the directory structure etc. There are I believe a lot of people out there at my level that find getting it working on their own pc, to a hosting service on the web where they run Linux is a nightmare. Most of the computer people seem to need therapy, and to be in a constant bad mood. They have no tolerance no patience or understanding for people like me. This is where you are very clever to come in with your articles; Sun has been I bit of a disappointment, since they should be doing what you are doing. If they want people like me to continue with java they need to keep things lean & simple, at least at some level. I mean jsp pages are relatively simple & low on code, I modify code got from books & write in notepad, the key point is “it works”. Sun has messed up with development of Java Server Faces for people like me; it’s so complicated, they have left me stranded & behind. i just got comfortable with jsp & have progressed to integraing tag libraries from coldtags; thats the way Sun should be going – sort out a library of usefulstuff so we dont have to do much coding . Let me come back to my central point, that I have managed to configure tomcat, get the jsp’s to work with mysql through a jar connector, have managed to put things in the right directories, why does it need to be so hard to get the web pages up to a hosting service it get it working? Also if someone like me has managed to do this i ca not be that thick ? So Suns not catering for people like me. Keep up the good work. Anything you can do to clarify knowledge as to where things should go on a Linux system would help. E.g. on my windows system The root directory is inside the webapps directory. I put my War files in the webapps, stopped & restated tomcat did a bit of adjusting of a couple of files & they worked! My mysql-connector jar is in the lib directory of the WEB-INF, my bean class files are in the class directory which is also inside WEB-INF. All my html & single jsp files are inside the root directory. What would be the set up for Linux? One last thing i’m still looking for a good jsp hosting service where ypou get good service please list any you know of.
Posted By Easywayserver.com
We can understand your problem and frustration regarding java hosting on windows platform. Andrew it is very easy to configure tomcat and jboss or any java web server on windows platform. Java environment (JVM) takes lot of CPU resources and RAM resources, mean use maximum CPU for jvm. This results in, left less resource for other. Web hoster only host less client on that servers. Server hardware cost is much higher, this mean they have big loss in java hosting. Php take less resource as compare to java. So most of web hosting allows only PHP as scripting language and can park many domains on their server.
Windows with java, Windows is product of Microsoft Microsoft have also own product as Dot NET. .NET only run on windows platform. .NET is also a framework and take lot of CPU resouces. If web hoster run both jvm of java and .NET on same server, mean they have to buy a very high speed Server and it is not good for them. Both take lot of memory RAM which is very costly in market. They also dont want to give both of thing together to customers. This is reasons behind on it.
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